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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Place bets now!!!
Will the battery be flat tomorrow after 2 days inc snow Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm for a yes........no music for you, you should be contented with the song of the flat 4!. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, if it was a carb version, deffo, but the 16v sound a bit harsh and mechanical for me. I would love to get that plenum chamber off and hear those throttle bodies sing.
I have my battery booster ready Laughing and will leave early just incase, i think it will be ok Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Alfa diary.... Laughing
Well today I connected my MultiMeter and got
12.78V

After turning on the ignition I got
12.56V and dropping,
11.30V when cranking.

With the engine on

No load I got
Fast idle 14.5V
Idle 14.18V

Loaded, as before plus rear wiper
Idle 11.69V
Fast idle 12.25V
Surely this is where you need 14V

I got the battery checked with this thing I have never seen before. Normally all that I have seen done before is a two pronged thing that is pressed onto the + and -.
This thing was a big metal box with 2 readouts and a couple of buttons and a dial.
He looked at the crank amps on my battery, 420A and turned the dial to match, then he turned it on and pressed a button. It took about 2 minutes and had two results, one passed fully and the other passed with one green bar out of three.

The car won’t get used now for another 4 days or 7, I have left the battery connected but with the 2 fuses removed that causes the drain.

I have found a place that will test an alternator on the bench, to see if all 3 phases of the rectifier are working and if not will price up a repair.

Place bets now, will it start or not
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear Alfa Diary,
today i went to start my car, after 2 days not being used and got the following.

engine off
12.83V
12.69 ignition on and dropping
10.90 cranking

engine on
nothing on
14.06 idle
14.04 fast idle

under load
11.85 idle
12.25 fast idle

nothing on
after load
13.88 idle
13.88 fast idle

Shall I take my alternator off to it get tested or not?

What do you think? It hasn't been that cold of late, do you think i should test for a longer period? I got called in to cover for my work collegue as she was ill.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,
Good to hear that it started..
What did the Battery guys say about the state of the Battery?
That unit that was put onto it sounds like a load tester. This would pick up any dud cells in the battery that would diminish the amount of charge that it holds.

Another idea may be to replace your alternator with a higher amp one. From memory I can't remember what the stock standard ones are. 75 amps???

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Ian,
Thanks, I normally don't have a problem, however it does crank faster now, but I guess the cold weather really tests things out, must have been the drain?
The battery guy said that it just passed with one green bar out of 3, I think.

My alternator, Bosch 0 120 488 118 119 has a blue sticker on it saying, K1 14V 23/65A however I have just changed the regulator for one that just says 14V, don't know if that will make any difference.
Does the alternator, as in the bits that do the ac - dc conversion "rectifier" dictate the amp output, or the regulator, which I thought only doed the voltage?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

place bets now!!!!!
will it start??

Will have been 5 days tomorrow, I can't test for drains any more as I accidentally bug er d up my DMM, doh!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did it start...

nothing on
12.66V
ignition on 12.55V
cranking 10.62V

idle 14.10V
fast idle 14.08V

load
idle 11.8V
fast idle 12.30V

after load
idle 13.94V
fast idle 13.88V

thanks guys for all your help and suggestion, do i get my alternator bench tested?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my 2p (and it's a while until pay day, so it's my last one! Laughing )

Battery technology is a funny thing, I'm not sure it's an exact science, although it's better these days than it used to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 years later and the battery is still going strong. I just swapped alternators and getting old one tested as mine was making the charge light glow, swapped the charge light for a 2.3w bulb and now car will charge from turning the key, once I get the engine to idle a little higher from cold.
Just going to get the battery tested after having it on trickle charge @ 2amps since Monday.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al, have you been waiting 3 years to the day to tell us that!?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this true Al? That's very sad

Actually I just remembered my battery has just turned 3.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
battery tested ok, CCA fine, dropped a little when load tested.
Check out my no revving anymore Smile
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Sweeeet:)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al, trade it in for a Yaris Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

??? Smile
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