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Errol
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 1:45 pm    Post subject: In need of more power Reply with quote

Hey guys ! I need more power for my series 3 16v. What should i do? I dont want to spend too much but i also want a significant increase in power. Should i go Air Filter , muffler? Or are there better options? Please advise me . Thanks Very Happy
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Scott Sander
Alfa 33


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much more power are you after? How big a wallet do you have?

If you want significantly more power than what you currently have, go and buy a rex, 200sx or Integra type R. Ok they wont have any character, but at least you get the grunt you are after.

Or if you want to mod the Alfa. Start with a new exhaust system. 2" stainless steel mandrel bent, hi flow cat and straight thru rear box. Get the chip for the ECU from the Squadra web site.

A K & N would be the go, but use a panel filter and not the pod filter. Although more for the reusability of it than any performance gains.

These increases will be small fry compared to the jap cars.
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Mixsynth
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a stainless steel mandrel?
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Charlie
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 8:56 pm    Post subject: mandrel bending? Reply with quote

Mandrel bending is the proces they use to bend the steel used for the exuahst pipes. the benefits of this are that it keeps the thickness of the steel the same throughout the bends. allowing high and smooth flow of exhaust gasses.

hope this helps
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Scott Sander
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It allows for less restriction at the bends as the diameter of the pipe work does not change as much as a standard system. So the flow should be better resulting in better performance. Very Happy

The downside is, it's a more labour intensive process to create a mandrel bent system compared to a standard system. So the cost of the system is higher. Sad

But compared to what was on the car the mandrel bent system released 6Kw. Twisted Evil
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Errol
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARGGGHHHHHH WRX? 200SX? PLEASE... even though they're quicker than the 33 ill never step in one of those! Laughing Anyway , scott why shouldnt i get a pod filter instead of a panel filter? Wouldnt a pod filter be better and have more power? In terms of an exhaust..what could i get for say $500 they will give at least 5kw of power? thanks
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Errol
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARGGGHHHHHH WRX? 200SX? PLEASE... even though they're quicker than the 33 ill never step in one of those! Laughing Anyway , scott why shouldnt i get a pod filter instead of a panel filter? Wouldnt a pod filter be better and have more power? In terms of an exhaust..what could i get for say $500 they will give at least 5kw of power? thanks
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Admin
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trouble with the cone filters is you land up drawing in dirty warm air from the engine bay which is likely to loose you power. You might reduce that effect by piping cold air to the filter but the only real solution would be to pretty much enclose the filter to protect it from the hot air

All the best

Keith
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BILL
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about NOS.A kit of +25hp or a +50hp would be great or what?
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RpmHead
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Joined: 13 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admin wrote:
Trouble with the cone filters is you land up drawing in dirty warm air from the engine bay which is likely to loose you power. You might reduce that effect by piping cold air to the filter but the only real solution would be to pretty much enclose the filter to protect it from the hot air

Here are som pictures that shows how I done the installation;
http://www.andycam.net/view_album.php?set_albumName=album17
Next step is to mount some kind of an heatshield.
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Scott Sander
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errol wrote:
Anyway , scott why shouldnt i get a pod filter instead of a panel filter? Wouldnt a pod filter be better and have more power? In terms of an exhaust..what could i get for say $500 they will give at least 5kw of power? thanks


Pod filters are not street legal in NSW and most likely other states. Power not really. Fast 4's mag did a test and the difference was negligable.

Not sure what $500 would get you but speak to Tuffy Mufflers in Alexandria, They did my system.
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