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Martini · Alfasud Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Posts: 25

I have a -91 16v with chassis number 05670539 and want to fit yellow konis and H&R lowering springs. Twisted Evil

I have everything ordered from alfisti.net i Germany but the shop wants to be sure I really can fit the konis to my struts before sending them to Sweden.

They say the konis will fit cars with lower chassis nr than 5455777 or if they have BOGE struts.

I have a higher chassis number (05670539) and an alfa garage changed to monroe struts some time ago. I had their article number (60561164) on an old receipt but they were surprised it was monroe and could not see that in their database. However, they thought maybe the monroes could be boge design.

Are Monroe 33 replacement shocks same as boge design?

Thanks,
Martin

arci_331,7 · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:

Probably they mean those with 3 or 4 screws at top... Ask them series 1 and 2 had 4 screws, 3 had 3.

tvatavuk · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:25 am Post subject:

Hi Martin,
unfortunatly I can't help you with that because I have same problem with my Sachs for which I don't know if ther inside is similar enough to boge so that Konis could be fitted.
But you do have other option, and that is to try to find BOGE shocks from 16v on some car scrap yard.

2 arci series 3 (90-94), also had 4 screws on top unitl end of 92, begining of 93. Except Imola model which only had 3 screws on top.
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Martini · Alfasud Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Posts: 25

Thanks for freshing up my mind Tvatavuk.
My first idea was actually to buy used struts and mount the KONIS while still having the car on the road. That way I can maybe sell my quite new Monroes after the swap.

Did not think about that when these issues were adressed by the shop!

I'll check with the scrapyards and hope for the best

/Martin

Bellamachinna · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject:

Hi...

tvatavuk wrote:

gritsop · Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:47 am Post subject:

Hi,

It is true that Sachs & BOGE shocks are the same product which differ only to the packaging of them.

When I had to replace the original BOGE shocks in my 33, new BOGE ones costed 130€ more than Sachs. So, with a total cost of 260€, my Alfa now runs on Sachs all around.

Bellamachina, I have seen shocks intended for a 16V under the brand name Magnetti Marelli; my Alfa dealer told me this is actually a Spica product under the Marelli logo.

Regards,
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tvatavuk · Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:01 am Post subject:

J Thanks for that info.
I know that Sachs/Boge are same big company, but problem is that I replaced original Boge shocks (& thrown them away Crying or Very sad

) with Sachs. On their same site, shocks from Boge have different specs/details from Sachs.
There was once something somewhere about problems of fitting dual-tube? Sachs with Koni inserts, there was problem with inner construction of Sachs.
Anyway in my next visit to scrap yard boge shocks are on my list.
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Little black dress which replaced Alfa Romeo 33 S 16v Permanent 4 GMo

Martini · Alfasud Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Posts: 25

I have now found used BOGE struts from a very nice Alfa33 breaker here in Sweden. Less than 25 euros to solve the problem! Very Happy

Martin

Guest · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:46 am Post subject: