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knighty Alfasud
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: 1.7 8v Big end bolt torque? |
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I have just removed the big end caps from my 1.7 8v, which is a carbed hydraulic tappet engine, in order to inspect the bearing condition, as I have a tapping noise, I have a haynes manual for a 1.5 sud and the torque setting is 32-35 Lb/ft........is the torque figure the same for the 1.7????
also, I'm told the engine has done 90K miles........the bearings looked like new!!!
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RBL Alfa Sprint
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 162 Location: Leicestershire
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Personally I'd stick with the upper end of that setting unless there is an update in the supplement section at the back of the manual.
I got all my torque settings from the Haynes manual when I rebuilt my 1.7 8v. There other manauls available though - I'm sure someone will have a link for one..... _________________ Porsche 550 spyder replica with Alfa Sprint 1.7 engine |
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knighty Alfasud
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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thanks fella, just what I wanted to hear, I will take a look in the manual for for a supplement section, I think the upper value will be ok though.
I think it was your good self asking for pics of my boxer powered buggy, here you go, its a bit of a shed, but mechanically sound.....here gos:
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RBL Alfa Sprint
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 162 Location: Leicestershire
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for posting pics - that looks like great fun! _________________ Porsche 550 spyder replica with Alfa Sprint 1.7 engine |
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gritsop Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 766 Location: Ekali, Athens - Greece
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Is it possible to upload photos of the engine area or the suspension setup. It would be interesting to see the the look of the setup.
Regards _________________ Thanassis Gritsopoulos
1991 Alfa 33 1.4 IE
2001 Alfa 147 1.6 Distinctive
http://www.alfa-restoration.co.uk
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knighty Alfasud
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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sorry I dont have pics.......the front suspension is VW beetle, lowered, a few torsion leaves removed, and have re-positioned the steering rack tie rods for minimal bump steer.......rear suspension is VW beetle swing arm......I run spax adjustable dampers front and rear........both front and rear suspension travel is only about 50mm.......tyres are 8" wide at front, 10" at rear, all 50 series profile.
your probably thinking "VW beetle suspension - yuck".......believe me, it now handles like on rails with literally no body roll - its perfect and embarrasses many little boys in hot hatches. |
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Rich B Alfa 33
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have the both the dealer manuals and the fuel injection engine manuals for the 33 and have so far found the following:
for 1.7 IE (sorry didn't realise yours was carbed until I started writing this, I'll check the figures but these will give you an idea):
bolts for main bearing caps to crankcase bearings (bottom of engine): 67 - 74NM or 6.8 - 7.5kgm
bolts attaching main bearing caps to crankcase (side ones): 41 -50 NM or 4.2 - 5.1 kgm
Hope that helps
I'll check the carb figures if you like... |
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knighty Alfasud
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Rich - many thanks, but thats the wrong bolts!........its the con-rod bolts I need to know.
I would also be interested to know the head bolt torques for the 1.7 8V hydraulic head if you have them?
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Rich B Alfa 33
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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con rod bolts! Ah got ya! Ok no worries, I'll look it up for you... |
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Rich B Alfa 33
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Right, here are the con rod bolt recommended torque settings:
As far as I can tell 1.7 and 1.5 carb cars have the same which are:
43 - 48nm / 4.4 -4.9 kgm / 31.8 - 35.4 ft lb
For interest, injected cars both 1.5 & 1.7 16v should be:
53 - 58nm / 5.4 -5.9kgm
Sorry forgot to look up head bolt torques, I'll post them tomorrow... |
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Rich B Alfa 33
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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ok, according to my manuals, here are the head bolt torque settings:
For carb: 81 - 87nm / 8.3 - 8.9kgm / 60 - 64.35ftlb
For Inj: 91 - 101nm / 9.3 - 10.3kgm
I have no idea why the figures are dfferent but thats as they appear in the manuals....
hope that helps
Cheers
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knighty Alfasud
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Rich - many thanks for the data, thets very helpful of you.......as I need to change the hydraulic tappets and thats a heads-off job unfortunatley.......though its too cold now so I will just stuff my face with mince pies instead |
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