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eagle3 Alfa 33
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there is one for that model, is there? It just bolts onto the engine block IIRC. _________________ Alfa33 QO 1984
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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There is a type of thermostat housing that opens up so that you can place the actual thermostat inside. I guess that might need a gasket? _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've always wanted to get one of those thermostats but i think they are a different shape as they were/are used on suds and the hoses might not fit??? _________________ x2 33 16v
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Think they will fit, but not sure you will have any success finding one for sale.
All the best
Keith _________________ I owe, I owe, its off to work we go.
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Not sure the part number will do you any good. They date from long before Alfa dumped their old parts numbering system (which made sense) and went to Fiats system (which is pretty random).
Think it was used on all the old Suds and the like.
All the best
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suds Alfasud
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yer suds, thats the standard one that i have waiting for me to collect, to cold to do it now
Wish i could have got hold of the one that comes apart. _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Guys!! The part number I quoted was for the thermostat that comes apart!!!
I found this out when I went to collect it DOH!
I had to speak to the guy’s boss to get him to refund me.
When I ordered it, I gave the guy that part number thinking it was the complete housing and asked him to double check it as it is a part number to both fiat and Alfa. The part number for the sealed unit is
60557407, argh!!! how annoying.
I found out the other part numbers for the thermostats that come apart if anyone’s interested
60503076, part 9 cup
60502976 part 12 cup
60504230 gasket
I now have to get Bianco to order one next week and get it the following week as the place I got it from no longer deal with Alfa!!!
So if anyone needs a thermostat for one of those that come apart, I know where there is one. _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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I had previously spoken to Alfa shop and asked them to put aside a thermostat for Bianco’s order, with Bianco’s permission, I called Bianco today to see if they had any lambda sensors but no joy and confirmed the order for the thermostat. I called Alfa shop to confirm adding the thermostat to Bianco’s order and they had sold it. FFS, I now have to wait until they get another order in FFS!!
I was thinking of finding the resistance the CTS would put out for normal running temp (80) and just putting a resistor of that value there once I have driven for about 10 miles as my fuel consumption has gone in the way of a sky rocket.
Does anyone know at what temp the ECU stops running at engine cold fuelling and weather i should use the value for normal running temp or just above cold engine temp, this will do any damage?
Thanks _________________ x2 33 16v
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bobbber P4
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Al... you didn't get a "come apart" thermostat did you!?!?!?
And asked for a refund?!
They are like gold mate! ![Surprised](images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif) _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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ok, which one of you 33 owners in London took my thermostat?
I spoke to alfashop and they said that they sent my reserved thermostat to a garage in London!!! arghhh!!!
![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ x2 33 16v
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Greek Alfasud
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: How to change |
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I changed my thermostat recently. The symptoms were low working temperatures like 50 or 60 Celsius when driving and only in heavy traffi could reach 80. Also i didnt had any head and now that it s winter it was most annoying especially when the windshield went blurred.
Ok here are some pics of the procedure...
Here is the old one. Sprint had a little different thermostat but also from a 33 can be installed.
The removal is quite easy , just removing the tubes and unscrew 2 bolts. This is a good opportunity to check the status and replace if needed. I had to change mine...
After that is the installation. I got the time and polished a little the top aluminium to give it a vintage polishing like the altenator.
And the result...
Now the temp is steady at 85 celcious in all conditions and i have heat inside the cabin.... |
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: |
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sweet,
I'm loving the polished alternator.
last time i changed one a clip broke, this time i will be prepared.
I noticed you had the open up type of thermostat, why didn't you just get the internal thermostat, do you still have the housings, how much would it be to ship over here? _________________ x2 33 16v
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Got a Quinton Hazel QTH420K today. Inside the QH box, it's actually a stamped BEHR Italia- made in Italy, who supply Fiat, so guessing it's OEM
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered one from Monza, only to get a call back saying they are no longer available. Alfashop are still waiting for italy to send them over. I tried Bishops and they said the same. John who did you order the QH one from? _________________ x2 33 16v
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I ordered the thermostat from Allparts automotive in Watford. It came from QH, so i guess any factor that can order from QH can get you one.
I fitted mine today, but haven't put rad back in yet (did cambelts recently)- ran out of time.
You'll probably find you need all new hoses that connect to thermostat too. The only one available from AR is the thinner hose that crosses the engine.
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks John, i think i have finally got there, i spoke to AllParts in Slough, who said they cant deliver to Brighton and suggested i call Camberly autofactors. Camberley will get it from Allparts in staines and then send it to us, phew.
I hope i have no problems with the pipes, hopefully you will have yours done tomorrow _________________ x2 33 16v
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Oggie Green Cloverleaf
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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talking of pipes, i replaced mine with ATAC blue silicone jobbies today and all new jubilee clips, looks good and gives me peace of mind for the journey to Spa. Al let me know how the thermo goes as Camberley Auto Factors are just down the road for me. _________________ PHAT 33 |
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the ofer Ian, i might have to take you up on it as we got another call later from CAF saying they cant get it from Allparts and will have to source it elsewhere and hope to get it to us on Wednesday. Could you pre-empt and see if your CAF can actually get it?
Any pics of the pipes?? _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Good news everyone, it came in today, so i can finally do a coolant flush, then fill up with paraflu eg. Instead of a 50/50 mix, will it be ok to go to 70 distilled water/Deionized water and 30 coolant or 60 / 40 in England, as water conducts heat better? I'm only doing a flush because when the head was off the remaining coolant left in the radiator corroded a little as it went brown from sitting there for a few weeks. I reused the coolant because it was less than 1 year old and still clear, before i mixed it with the rad remains, doh! I will change my header tank back to a nice cleaned 16v screw top one, for originality (bobbber) and finally fit my lambda sensor, now the car will come off choke.
I will have spare hose clips and Iain do you have any spare silicone hose left if i need to buy some, wink, wink, post those loverly pics up here as well please. _________________ x2 33 16v
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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My thermo pics.
John
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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snap
Iain, i measured the thermostat and got 32, 27, 27, 22 and forgot to measure the smallest one, what size is it please and what size hoses did you go for? _________________ x2 33 16v
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