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Errol Alfa Sprint
Joined: 20 Mar 2003 Posts: 114 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:31 am Post subject: Exhaust set up |
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I was wondering which would be the best exhaust set up to get power out of a 33. My mechanic suggest i go from the catalyst back ( not should if i should change the cat ) and change the muffler box with a tip. Any ideas? _________________ 91 Alfa Romeo 33 16v * SOLD*
Lowered 45mm
15 x 7 inch advanti wheels
Falken 195 low profile
K&N Pod filter
Cannon 2inch exhaust from cat-back with 3inch tip. |
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xris Alfa Arna
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Melbourne Victoria
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:15 am Post subject: |
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I went for a set of extractors, then to a 2 1/4" ss exhaust.
Gave me an extra 5 or so kw at the wheels. And it makes the car sound and rev harder. |
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Eddie W Alfa 33
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 375 Location: new zealand
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Xris.
Would tou have the pipe diameter and lengths.
Thanks Eddie |
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xris Alfa Arna
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Melbourne Victoria
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:14 am Post subject: |
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cant remeber off the top of my head, i bought these extractors years ago now back in 2000 i think? the end pipe is 2" (or so it connects to my 2 1/4" exhaust) the smaller pipes are aroud 1.5 inch each i think or 11/4" its not good for a lowered car as the extractors go under the sump and hit shit if your not careful |
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Adam H Alfasud
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 92 Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:36 am Post subject: |
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And are these extractors available for anyone to buy?
I'll be looking for something like this in a few months time - did you get them made to order or was it off the shelf? What was your suppliers name? |
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xris Alfa Arna
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Melbourne Victoria
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:58 am Post subject: |
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i bought them from a dealer in canberra act. cant remember the name theres a link on my webpage http://alfa33qv.tripod.com its not turin imports its the other link. It was a spare set of extractors from a race car i payed $285 i think might have been more? |
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Eddie W Alfa 33
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 375 Location: new zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Xris ,
Did you lose any torque with this set up?
Eddie |
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
xris, those extractors youve got there look almost identical to the ones I got on my Sud, except mine stack one on top of the other before they go into the collector, if that makes any sense. My uncle built mine for his 1600 race engine, then I scored them for my 1.7. Gave not a lot of bottom end increase but damn it improved top end and now itl rev a lot harder.
Cheers,
Richard |
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sudman Alfasud
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 69 Location: christchurch, new zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:45 am Post subject: |
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oops. forgot to log in. last post was mine.
Richard |
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xris Alfa Arna
Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Melbourne Victoria
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:00 am Post subject: |
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No way would you lose any torque, freeing up the restrictive stock manifold to a 4/2/1 exhaust will increase the performance. Straight away there was noticable difference the car would rev easier etc. I dragged a worked gemini 2.ltr in it |
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sudman Alfasud
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 69 Location: christchurch, new zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Yeah the old exhaust I had was way restrictive. That was the original 105hp 1500 headers, cos the 1700 ones wouldnt clear the inboard brakes!
As for dragging things.... its easy, most boy racers laugh at you until you disappear off into the distance. I've claimed a few 1800 turbo Mazda 323 GTXs before.... guess the neon lights just dont give that much of a power increase! |
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lesthegringo Alfasud
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 97
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:44 pm Post subject: Crossover manifold |
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The photo is of the elusive 'crossover' type manifold, that links the no 1 cylinder and the no 2 cylinder instead of no 1 and 3. This is supposed to give a better exhaust extraction characteristic through evening out the exhaust pulses.
The theory is that it should aid bottom end power without losing any top end. The fact that there seemed to be no increase in bottom end and seems to breathe better at the top end I would put down to the manifold primary pipe diameters being on the large side.
Slightly smaller diameter primaries would probably beef up the bottom end, and I'm sure you wouldn't notice any loss in the top end that you gained with the bigger pipes.
I'm curious as to the way that it sounds..... the 'classic' boxer buzz and zing is in my opinion one of the great things about these cars, and I'd be interested to know if these exhaust manifold alter the way the engine sounds. A recording of it would be interesting to hear.
Les |
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