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BigAl P4
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Oggie Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 811 Location: Whitehill
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm for a yes........no music for you, you should be contented with the song of the flat 4!. _________________ PHAT 33 |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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lol, if it was a carb version, deffo, but the 16v sound a bit harsh and mechanical for me. I would love to get that plenum chamber off and hear those throttle bodies sing.
I have my battery booster ready and will leave early just incase, i think it will be ok _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Dear Alfa diary....
Well today I connected my MultiMeter and got
12.78V
After turning on the ignition I got
12.56V and dropping,
11.30V when cranking.
With the engine on
No load I got
Fast idle 14.5V
Idle 14.18V
Loaded, as before plus rear wiper
Idle 11.69V
Fast idle 12.25V
Surely this is where you need 14V
I got the battery checked with this thing I have never seen before. Normally all that I have seen done before is a two pronged thing that is pressed onto the + and -.
This thing was a big metal box with 2 readouts and a couple of buttons and a dial.
He looked at the crank amps on my battery, 420A and turned the dial to match, then he turned it on and pressed a button. It took about 2 minutes and had two results, one passed fully and the other passed with one green bar out of three.
The car won’t get used now for another 4 days or 7, I have left the battery connected but with the 2 fuses removed that causes the drain.
I have found a place that will test an alternator on the bench, to see if all 3 phases of the rectifier are working and if not will price up a repair.
Place bets now, will it start or not _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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dear Alfa Diary,
today i went to start my car, after 2 days not being used and got the following.
engine off
12.83V
12.69 ignition on and dropping
10.90 cranking
engine on
nothing on
14.06 idle
14.04 fast idle
under load
11.85 idle
12.25 fast idle
nothing on
after load
13.88 idle
13.88 fast idle
Shall I take my alternator off to it get tested or not?
What do you think? It hasn't been that cold of late, do you think i should test for a longer period? I got called in to cover for my work collegue as she was ill. _________________ x2 33 16v
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icky Alfasud
Joined: 20 Mar 2003 Posts: 70 Location: Lismore NSW Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Al,
Good to hear that it started..
What did the Battery guys say about the state of the Battery?
That unit that was put onto it sounds like a load tester. This would pick up any dud cells in the battery that would diminish the amount of charge that it holds.
Another idea may be to replace your alternator with a higher amp one. From memory I can't remember what the stock standard ones are. 75 amps???
Cheers
Ian _________________ Specialization is For Insects
1988 33 1.5 S 8V |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Ian,
Thanks, I normally don't have a problem, however it does crank faster now, but I guess the cold weather really tests things out, must have been the drain?
The battery guy said that it just passed with one green bar out of 3, I think.
My alternator, Bosch 0 120 488 118 119 has a blue sticker on it saying, K1 14V 23/65A however I have just changed the regulator for one that just says 14V, don't know if that will make any difference.
Does the alternator, as in the bits that do the ac - dc conversion "rectifier" dictate the amp output, or the regulator, which I thought only doed the voltage? _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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place bets now!!!!!
will it start??
Will have been 5 days tomorrow, I can't test for drains any more as I accidentally bug er d up my DMM, doh! _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:12 am Post subject: |
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did it start...
nothing on
12.66V
ignition on 12.55V
cranking 10.62V
idle 14.10V
fast idle 14.08V
load
idle 11.8V
fast idle 12.30V
after load
idle 13.94V
fast idle 13.88V
thanks guys for all your help and suggestion, do i get my alternator bench tested? _________________ x2 33 16v
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Here's my 2p (and it's a while until pay day, so it's my last one! )
Battery technology is a funny thing, I'm not sure it's an exact science, although it's better these days than it used to be. _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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3 years later and the battery is still going strong. I just swapped alternators and getting old one tested as mine was making the charge light glow, swapped the charge light for a 2.3w bulb and now car will charge from turning the key, once I get the engine to idle a little higher from cold.
Just going to get the battery tested after having it on trickle charge @ 2amps since Monday. _________________ x2 33 16v
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bobbber - getting old Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Al, have you been waiting 3 years to the day to tell us that!? |
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Is this true Al? That's very sad
Actually I just remembered my battery has just turned 3. _________________ Presntly own
Red Abarth 500c |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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33bits 16 Valve
Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 1067 Location: Clevedon. North Somerset
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Al, trade it in for a Yaris _________________ 155 sportpack
33 16v Sportwagon
33 Permanent 4
33 16v (for sale)
156 JTS sportwagon
contact me for any 33 parts. Alex, 07896-327708
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BigAl P4
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