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adamh
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: 16v Engine Workshop Manual Reply with quote

I was having a look around this evening and happened upon this manual,
looks like it could be useful.

http://david.alfa-romeo.eu/alfa/Boxer%20Engines%201712.PDF

Thanks,

Adam
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice find Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even though I have an 8v still a good doc to store away Very Happy

and my doubt was confirmed.

The crank is nitrided and cannot be reground.

I guess the same goes for the 8v crank?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Presume that is the manual for the 16v engine fitted to the 145/6. I would check if the crank is the same in it as the 33.

The 33 workshop manuals were on fiche.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just dont get mixed up with 145/6 stuff and boxer stuff, 145 started with boxer but went to 4 in line later Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fiche ones are in the links I threw up.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pictures are of a later 16v as they have the later inlet plenum on them Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fluffyduff wrote:
The fiche ones are in the links I threw up.


And cost me a fortune to get scanned in Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play Keith I didnt realise they originated with you!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just read through this post, wouldn't quite agree with Brit01, in that you can get the cranks ground, as long as you have the parts/journals re-nitrided.

Not may people do it - but it can be done.

Mine came back from the nitriders recently. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

33 engine manual is available from Mercian Manuals:

http://www.mercianmanuals.co.uk/

Click manuals, select Alfa Romeo and scroll down to 33 16v and fuel injection manual. It covers 1351cc/1596cc plus 1712 8v and 16v. Its an invaluable book and good value at £12 or so
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

33 engine manual is available from Mercian Manuals:

http://www.mercianmanuals.co.uk/

Click manuals, select Alfa Romeo and scroll down to 33 16v and fuel injection manual. It covers 1351cc/1596cc plus 1712 8v and 16v. Its an invaluable book and good value at £12 or so
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich,

Would you happen to know if the Mercian manual, on their dropdown list, which seems to be a 17v engine supplement, is any different to the one where there is a link at the top of this thread? TBH I only need the engine bit at the moment....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been through the manual from the link with my manual from Mercian Manuals (the Alfa Romeo Direzione Assistenza Tecnica engine manual) and they look to be exactly the same.

You may want to look at page 23, you mentioned a torque setting for the conrod cap fasteners in another thread, not sure if you saw my reply but the torque you were working with is not correct. Page 23 will give you the correct figures
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that is exactly what I was trying to correlate as well as tying in with the official documentation from Alfa. It seems that my settings at 48nm is a bit low. Going to contact the engine builder on Monday as well as copying him the link to here - as you say the engine manual has some good overall torque setting information etc.
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