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vantastic
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: P4 Fratellino Reply with quote

Clean Ready for New MOT and staying



New light fitted (Cheers 33bits)

Smile Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOT passed with flying colours




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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very welcome bud. Looking good.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

few pics of belt that let go and what caused it





Head is almost off now, put a camera in and valve's are bent
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john 33_16v
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bummer.

Hope you get it sorted- good luck.

John
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 bolts are stuck on the head, pic of the failed bit



Will start my shopping list soon, may as well do everything now
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had aluminium pulleys made up through AH Motorsport and then had the anodised black as it hardens the outer face , not cheap but they won't fail like yours have.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks likely that the tensioner pulley bearing siezed, and then the pulley was cooked by the heat generated by the belt sliding over it.

Fitting a metal pulley would not save the engine in that case, as the belt would eventually overheat and break anyway.

Easily removable covers to allow frequent visual inspections might be a good idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason for alloy pulley's is they don't wear nor do they suffer from the heat cycles making the plastic brittle over time they also dissipate heat better to avoid the bearing becoming dry then prone to wear. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be clear, it was the idler that failed, the belt then rubbed through the plastic cover and snapped
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Head is off, 8 bent valves


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The damage



Stripped


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New shinny bits



and found some other stuff


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice bits Smile
i am interested, where did you get new Exhaust valves? a bit rare thing Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Progres looking good Mark, well done.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

niaugi wrote:
nice bits Smile
i am interested, where did you get new Exhaust valves? a bit rare thing Smile


Valves was in a box of parts that came with the car 2 years ago

I Have found most parts via a few people, like Alex and happy to list or help people who need parts advice
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

33bits wrote:
Progres looking good Mark, well done.


Cheers, your leads helped me find things after a few calls
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always pleased to help.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

33bits wrote:
Always pleased to help.


Talking is good, most sites dont list all parts

Also found saying names works when tracking stuff down
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More bits




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Bobkelso
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad accident but I'd like the short time
you got to start to repair it..maybe fast action
is the best medicine to adverse accident Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sorted soon and for sale with my others
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