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adamcookie
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Few questions - fuel relay Reply with quote

Hello all, and merry christmas.

Trying to get my head round the 16v fuel quality relay. I apologise for my ignorance.

Could someone explain to me what each of the relays in the pictures are - and if it looks correct. Im assuming i have the yellow (95 ron with cat) relay? I have no idea which ones connector s30. It looks like a different setup to every picture i have found!

The car is a 1993 16v with cat.

I use 98 ron, but i'm assuming the 16v doesn't have a knock sensor? so will this make any difference at all?





Thanks - im getting there haha
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john 33_16v
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

That all looks fine Adam.

My car is a '93 catted 16v too. I'll try and get out to confirm later and take a picture.

From memory the yellow one is the fuel pump relay and the red stripe one is ignition relay.

Cheers,

John
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok here are mine.


I replaced the fuel and ignition relays a few years ago as they packed up together for some reason- they are just basic relays- don't think they are anything to do with fuel quality- might be wrong. Mine were originally like yours- 1 mustard colour and one red stripe.

I've never touched the other group of relays shown- these are how mine have been since 2001 and probably since the car was made.

Hope that helps!

John


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

beware, Bosch relays with a red stripe on the metal housing (like the one on your first picture) are diode-protected and shall be replaced with a similar item

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys,
the fuel selector, s30, is red/orange ish in colour
please see the last pic in this thread
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5870&highlight=fuel
info here
http://www.sanderfamily.com/cgi-bin/framed/2539/alfa/alfa_ignition_advance.html

http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2426&highlight=cat

adamcookie wrote:
I use 98 ron, but i'm assuming the 16v doesn't have a knock sensor? so will this make any difference at all?

there is no knock sensor
the highest ignition curve with a cat is set for 95 ron Yellow coloured connector. with nothing connected its 97 ron but this is for no cat.
I wouldn't waste money on 98 ron fuel.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thanks,

That thread with JeremyC is the same car! I bought it from him back in April.

There is no sign of that orange plug. (see top pic) Bit confusing - although it does look the same as john 33's set up.

Does not having this plug mean I should be running 98? or is it just hidden somewhere else?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry forgot to sign in!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry too much about it Adam. Are you having any running issues?

The fuel pump relay in mine now is a genuine bosch part 0332 014 112 and I assume it's diode protected from the diagram on the side. It came like that -plastic/ no red stripe in 2012.

The ignition relay (the black one) is a generic ebay part. I couldn't get the original Italian made mustard colour one with the orange base anywhere.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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