Alfa Pages Forum Index Alfa Pages
A forum for help with the Alfasud And Alfa 33
 

Paintwork
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Alfa Pages Forum Index -> Boxer Workshop
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
33.1.7ie turismo
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:31 pm    Post subject: Paintwork Reply with quote

Hi all

I have a red 33, and the paintwork is looking a little faded, almost a pinky colour. are there any easy ways (apart from a respray) to get the red colour back?

Cheers!
Back to top
tvatavuk
Gold Cloverleaf


Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Posts: 673
Location: Split, Croatia

PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy if you do it yourself, no. Long time term no.
Usual way is to wax or polish and wax it. Depending on state of oxidation/fade it will last from 1-3 months.
_________________
Tino Vatavuk
Little black dress which replaced Alfa Romeo 33 S 16v Permanent 4 GMo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
33.1.7ie turismo
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought that may be the answer Sad
Back to top
Marcin
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Posts: 117
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

my alfa has got quite pink over the years, but when I give it a good polish, the red color returns as it was brand new. Ok, almost brand new. And anyway, it doesn't hurt to give your alfa a little bit of wax every now and then Smile

Cheers,

Marcin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Laki
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Posts: 74
Location: Ljubjana

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same for me...No real sullution...new paintjob or polishing....
_________________
-- ALFA ROMEO 33 Q4 --
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
gritsop
Green Cloverleaf


Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 766
Location: Ekali, Athens - Greece

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Well polishing and waxing can fool people if done properly. Some days ago I did a polish and wax to my Alfa (red) which over the years I had faded somehow. I used Armor All brand name. A week ago in the annual HAROC assembly many participants were asking me if I had repainted the car Wink

So give it a try - the results will be better than today, and if possible use cover sold by auto accessories. It will protect your car and see that within a year of use the wear of it from the sun will be such , that the material will tear away and collapse.

I will post photos on order to see the difference.

Regards,
_________________
Thanassis Gritsopoulos
1991 Alfa 33 1.4 IE
2001 Alfa 147 1.6 Distinctive

http://www.alfa-restoration.co.uk
Parts Shop: www.alfa-restoration.co.uk/shop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
33.1.7ie turismo
Guest





PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ace, thanks for the advice guys! Very Happy do any of you have any recommendations as to the best polish to use? i have heard the t-cut colour polish is good?

also how do i show pics? i want to show u all my new car Razz

[/img]
Back to top
gritsop
Green Cloverleaf


Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 766
Location: Ekali, Athens - Greece

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

In order to show pics you need to host them somewhere - then when writing your post you can include the URL of the pic.
The forum itself does not have the capability to host them.

I have also heard about T-Cut and words say that it is a good product.
But in my country I could not find it.

Regards,
_________________
Thanassis Gritsopoulos
1991 Alfa 33 1.4 IE
2001 Alfa 147 1.6 Distinctive

http://www.alfa-restoration.co.uk
Parts Shop: www.alfa-restoration.co.uk/shop
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Laki
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Posts: 74
Location: Ljubjana

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use SONAX Also does the trick Wink
_________________
-- ALFA ROMEO 33 Q4 --
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
burgo90
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 29 May 2003
Posts: 118

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

g3 is unbeatable, we use g3 everything in the bodyshop at citroen
_________________
http://www.novaload.net/features/viewfeature.php?ref=881
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

burgo90 wrote:
g3 is unbeatable, we use g3 everything in the bodyshop at citroen


whats G3 Shocked can i buy it in the UK?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

found some Very Happy

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=35250&ts=99544

is this good for getting rid of the pinking colour?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
burgo90
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 29 May 2003
Posts: 118

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes mate thats the stuff buy yaself a proper mop as well they are about £30 and it'll bring it up like new
_________________
http://www.novaload.net/features/viewfeature.php?ref=881
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice one! i'll b getting some of that 2moro and teach those pinks panels a lesson Twisted Evil !!

will those yellow polishing cloths u can get in halfords be good enough or can u recommend some better ones?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, had a bash with the t-cut colour polish i bought and its worked really well! v happy, i think with a couple more coats it will look great Very Happy

problem solved. thanks for all your advice guys, was worried i would need a respray, so you've saved me a fortune!!

cheers

chris
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
paddy granger
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 248

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm, hold your horses.

T-Cut is great for removing the flat pink layer and small scratches. Once your car is shiny, you should only use normal or coloured wax. T-cut actually removes thin layers of paint (you may notice that your duster turns into the same colour as your car), and should only be used to restore the paint to its correct colour and or gloss. It cuts back the layers until you are happy with what you see. If you continue cutting back, you will eventually run out of paint. Laughing

Once you have cut back the flat layer, I would recommend Valma for the coloured wax (they have a great range of different colours), and Turtle wax for the clear wax. Do not confuse Turtle T-cut with the wax products they offer.

Patrick
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi patrick

i used the t-cut coloured polish, which is red. is this not the same as t-cutting and waxing at the same time with a coloured polish, as this is how it is promoted?

http://www.incarshop.co.uk/acatalog/T_Cut_Coloured_Polish.html

its the 3rd one in the list

should i also use a clear wax too?

cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
paddy granger
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 248

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two categories of products, the "Pre-Wax cleaners" and the "Waxes & Polishes". Your product falls into the "Waxes & Polishes" category.

It should be OK to use, as it isn't primarlily designed to cut back the paint, but rather to only remove the oxidized layers whilst also waxing. It has a very weak cutting characteristic compared to pure T-cut.

A similar product is offered by Turtle Wax called "Color Back Finish Restorer & Car Polish".

If your paint is shiny after the initial treatment with the T-cut product, I would suggest you use a clear wax, such as Turtle Wax "Super Hard Shell", or "Express Shine" which is really easy and quick to use.

There is a member on this forum called Gary who has some professional experience in the paint industry, hopefully he will also contribute to this thread.

Patrick
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its seems to be looking pretty mint now, so i think i will invest in some wax to finish it off. the "super hard shell" sounds like the one i will go for. thanks for ur advice patrick Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
James Granger
Alfa 33


Joined: 10 Apr 2003
Posts: 302

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy and I cut back our faded paint 5 years ago as it was seriously pink. The result was astonishing, and the glossy red has lasted to this day. In fact the paint has looked increasingly good for the past 2 years.

Before:



Now:



The paint actually looks better than on our newer 147! Confused



Our secret is that we garage the car and wax it on a regular basis.

I've heard that if you T-cut a faded car and use it on a daily basis - leaving it outside in the sun and in the rain - it'll fade again in a short period of time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! thats some difference! what did u use (apart from the wax) also, i think those alloys (155 v6?) suit the car really well
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Ben_nz
Gold Cloverleaf


Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Posts: 575
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my previous car (also my first car), a 1988 Mitsubishi Cordia:

That photo was taken as soon as I drove the car home after buying it.
I bought some T-cut stuff, the coloured kind that turns your application cloth pink and your polishing cloth pink and your hands pink, and leaves pink dust behind once you've polished it off.
But the photo below is from when I sold the car (I crashed it as you can see, just enough to make it not economical to repair):

The photos aren't completely fair, but the paint improved with some T-cut and probably a wax of some sort.
And James, note how my pictures are reasonably sized and don't take forever to download. Razz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
James Granger
Alfa 33


Joined: 10 Apr 2003
Posts: 302

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

33 1.7 ie Turismo wrote:
OMG! thats some difference! what did u use (apart from the wax) also, i think those alloys (155 v6?) suit the car really well


Just T-Cut and wax! Smile Yep the wheels are from a 155, but from the 2.0 Super widebody version. They may well have been fitted to the V6 as well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Marcin
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Posts: 117
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James / Paddy,

what eles did you do to your car (besides the polishing)? I see that mirrors and bumpers changed color... The rims have already been mentioned Cool

Looks great Very Happy

Marcin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tvatavuk
Gold Cloverleaf


Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Posts: 673
Location: Split, Croatia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Granger wrote:
Paddy and I cut back our faded paint 5 years ago as it was seriously pink.


James you are one entering car on 1st picture?
_________________
Tino Vatavuk
Little black dress which replaced Alfa Romeo 33 S 16v Permanent 4 GMo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Alfa Pages Forum Index -> Boxer Workshop All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum