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alferr Alfasud
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 76 Location: ausrtralia, south australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: Gearbox Removal With Out Engine? |
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Hi guys wondering if you can remove gearbox with out engine if so, what is the best way to go about it?
Thanks in advance _________________ -=alferr=-
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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alferr Alfasud
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 76 Location: ausrtralia, south australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Ok thankyou for that, it must be hard to put back in then, lining it all up?? _________________ -=alferr=-
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm going to swap my gearbox in the new year (well in 2008 sometime probably), and have already began worrying about it. I'll be limited for time so have been toying with the idea of just taking the gearbox off in situe.
ZPs link is really good, and i may consider it.
However alferr, if you have to do the job solo, and have a bit of time to do it in, i'd seriously consider removing the engine and box together. Having split alfa boxer engine/boxes off the car many times, i too would be very worried about alignment difficulty lying under the car with a very heavy gearbox.
With the lump out you also have the opportunity to do cambelts, water pump, plugs, and slave cylinder with ease, oh and clean up all the engine bay.
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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eagle3 Alfa 33
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 402 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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You really need to put the car on a lifting ramp or at least over a decent inspection pit and have a helping hand to remove the box on its own. It can be done but removing the engine/gearbox together may be safer. _________________ Alfa33 QO 1984
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alferr Alfasud
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 76 Location: ausrtralia, south australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Just pulled the whole lot out the bottom, as the alignment was gonna be a pain if i just took the gearbox out, also you tend to bend studs, putting new clutch in then back in the lot goes as one complete unit, yes took me half a day but was worth it in the end as i can just put everything together and yes it is also hard putting the subframe bolts back in and getting them to line up :S. _________________ -=alferr=-
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Alan Alfasud
Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Slovenia - Ljubljana
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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I removed the gearbox a lot of times out and put it back in on my own. It's not easy but it can be done.
This is from my thread on Slovenian forum about changing the clutch and stuff...
Remove exhaust manifold
Undo axles
Slightly untighten two bolts of front engine mounting
Dismounting of rear mount
Remove intake manifold
Upper mounting
Little help with hidraulic lift
Then slightly lower the engine and gearbox, to get the upper mounting out
Undo the little metal protection of the flywheel (3 m6 bolts)
Undo all the bolts that hold the gearbox
Then some hard work and the gearbox is out
Blocking the flywheel with stron screwdriver to undo the clutch bolts
Carbon clutch
To center the clutch i use an aksle of some broken gearbox
Homemade shortshifter
Beter fixing of the shifting rod
For more accurate gearshifting i have made new iron part (my poor english...) with absolutely no air so there is no empty movement of gear stick
Mounting goes in opposite order...
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alferr Alfasud
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 76 Location: ausrtralia, south australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Ok excellent , thanks for all that, figured out i didnt put the thrust bearing in properly and it was actually broken, this time before i put engine and gearbox in i tested the engine in netural then in gear to make sure its all good .
Thanks for all the help guys, every little bit helped!
Im wrecking an 1988 1.5L if anyone needs parts send me a pm
Cheers! _________________ -=alferr=-
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