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vassil
Alfa Arna


Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 13
Location: Sofia Bulgaria

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject: Tuning of 33 Sprot Wagon? Reply with quote

Hi,
Can you give me some info on tuning of alfa 33 sport wagon 1.3 4x4? I have no idea of tuning, but i would like to know what can be done Smile


P.S.Do you haveany nice pictures?

thanks
Bye
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Pimp_Dudu
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 17 Apr 2003
Posts: 157
Location: Helsinki, Finland

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vasil brato moze6 acki mnog ne6ta da napravi6, az sega zivea v finlandia no se vry6tam na 1rvi mart v bulgaria i ako iska6 mozem da se sre6tnem. Acki mi i interesno kak stoqt ne6tata s Alfa v bulgaria...ima li mnogo alfa tuning i i ima li servizi za alfi. Az li4no imam 8valve 33.No edin proqtel e qko modificiral negovata si 4x4 alfa. i ti kazvam 4e s 4x4 moze da se pravi 4udesa. imam i znimii i kvi li ne ne6ta
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Buck Bundy
Alfasud


Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Posts: 68
Location: Anglesey

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pimp_Dudu wrote:
vasil brato moze6 acki mnog ne6ta da napravi6, az sega zivea v finlandia no se vry6tam na 1rvi mart v bulgaria i ako iska6 mozem da se sre6tnem. Acki mi i interesno kak stoqt ne6tata s Alfa v bulgaria...ima li mnogo alfa tuning i i ima li servizi za alfi. Az li4no imam 8valve 33.No edin proqtel e qko modificiral negovata si 4x4 alfa. i ti kazvam 4e s 4x4 moze da se pravi 4udesa. imam i znimii i kvi li ne ne6ta


Do they speak Bulgarian in Finland or Finnish in Bulgaria?

Either way it's all double dutch to me.

Lets try to keep it English can we? (At least an English translation of what that was all about would be nice)

Buck
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Pimp_Dudu
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 17 Apr 2003
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Location: Helsinki, Finland

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry bout that...jsut got really exited that there's another bulgarian except me on this forum...i just said that there's alot of things u could do to tune the car up, and bla bla bla bla....sorry again i kinda realized that its stupid to blabber in bulgarian AFTER i submited the post...sorry agai...my bad
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Peter D
Alfasud


Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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Location: Denmark

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Tuning an Alfa 33 1.3 Reply with quote

You shall not tune on a 1.3 engine. It is totally wrong and expensive.

You can buy a spare engine from a 1.5 or 1.7 (which is a much better solution) for the same money that will buy you a pair of cams and exhaust system for your 1.3.


Peter (DK)
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vassil
Alfa Arna


Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 13
Location: Sofia Bulgaria

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will the engine fit? and what is the difference in hp?
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Buck Bundy
Alfasud


Joined: 30 Oct 2003
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Location: Anglesey

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: power outputs Reply with quote

In standard tune.....

1.5 green cloverleaf on carbs - 105bhp

1.7 8v on carbs - 118bhp

1.7 16v - 137bhp (I think!)

not sure about 8valve i.e. engines.

I haven't a clue about a 1.3, but the Sud 1.3s were close to 90bhp.

Buck
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Pimp_Dudu
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how come the 1.7 8 valve on carbs has more HP then the injection one...under theory shouldnt the injection make it faster??
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pimp_Dudu wrote:
how come the 1.7 8 valve on carbs has more HP then the injection one...under theory shouldnt the injection make it faster??


It's probably tuned with fuel efficiency also in mind. I don't really know either... Wink
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Marcin
Alfa Sprint


Joined: 13 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small difference in HP between the carb and i.e. versions I'd put down to the absence / presence of the cat. The newer (read: injection) versions were equipped with a cat, so the gain in power that came from the injection was lost because of the converter. However, the fuel economy improved and the emissions of CO/HC/NOx went a waaaay down.

Marcin
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Peter D
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: Tuning 33 1.3 Reply with quote

All the other engines will fit.

But with the 16V you will also need a new front crossmember.

Peter (DK)
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