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[jmmoss]

Hi there,
I am thinking about selling my 1987 33 1.5 twin carb for a 1991 16v 1.7 33 with fuel injection. Although a really like my current 33, I only get 350km per AUS$40 tankful which is quite poor I feel. I am thinking of upgrading for the later 33 mainly for the increase in performance and a hope of getting better fuel economy. How much fuel could a expect to save with the fuel injected 33? Even 10% would be a help now petrol prices are going so high!
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Alfa 33 4c 1.5 Gold Cloverleaf 1987
with Air Conditioning

[Ben_nz]

Don't complain about fuel prices until you've lived in England - that must be the reason people actually buy diesel cars over there!

How low are you draining your tank? $40 doesn't say how many litres you're using because the prices vary.
If I run my series 2 1.7 33 until there's only 5 or 6 litres left (based on 44~45 litres going in when I fill up), I get about 450km, more if I'm lucky. That's a combination of city and a decent portion of motorway driving, slightly more hoony than your average motorist.

According to my 33's handbook, a 1.5TI should use 10.7 l/100km in a (typical italian?) urban journey. If you use 40 litres out of your 50 litre tank, you should get 374km. My 1.7QV should get 351km.

Maybe your 33 needs a tune, check tyre pressures, spray carb cleaner, recite mystical chant etc. Always preferable to winding up the windows, turning off the aria condizienta and driving slower.

[Eddie W]

Jmmoss, in a word, floats and needle valves.
Regards Eddie
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[gritsop]

Hi,

My 33 uses around 38-40 lt doing around 400kms.

I fill 'er up when the tank has around 12 liters left.

I have to admit that the car travels in open suberb roads which means no traffic lights, stops, 1-2 gear etc. but constantly 4th or fifth gear.

For statistical reasons I mention that prise per litre is around 0.8€ unleaded (RON95).

Regards,
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1991 Alfa 33 1.4 IE
2001 Alfa 147 1.6 Distinctive

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[jonninaustralian (jmmoss)]

Just emigrated from England to Australia actually - but it doesn't get easier as the car trips are longer and the wages are that bit lower. It has hit aus$1.00 / litre here now, and I can't see it going down much. I just had my 33 tuned by an Italian mechanic in Melbourne - but perhaps he tuned for performance rather than economy. Either way I guess least the 1990's 33's don't go out of tune so easily due to fuel injection. Still keen on an LPG gas conversion - but my thread on here about the ins and outs of doing one on the 33 didn't much response - but an interesting thing in my Owner's Manual is that Alfa actually give tyre pressures if "LPG tank is fitted". But if a conversion turned it into a milk cart it would be terrible!

[burgo90]

what is $1aus GB punds then cos at the mo here its about 85p a litre which is a fookin rip off
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[Ben_nz]

At the time of writing, one Aussie dollar is equivalent to 0.388265 British pounds.
(http://www.xe.com/ucc/ currency converter)
I'm now at over 470km and my tank isn't quite empty.
I'm happy with my 33's economy and power compared to my last car (a 1.8 carby 3-speed automatic)...

[Marcin]

Hi,

that's quite bad economy figures you guys post here! I'm doing 130km every day to get to my work, of which 100 is highway and 30 is local road/town. On the highway I'm mostly doing 100-130 km/h (if there is no jam ) I've an '93 model with 1.4ie engine, and it consumes about 6.8 liters per 100km. I've been keeping a record of the used petrol and distance travelled since the beginning of this year and the average is this 6.8 l/100km. Even if my odometer/speedo overestimates the distance/speed by 5% (which I think it does), then it's still 7.1 l/100km, which is not bad I think. B.t.w., I really don't avoid revving above 4000rpm

Cheers,

Marcin