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joninaustralia Guest
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:42 am Post subject: If Alfa Romeo did not exist, what car would you own? |
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Mine would be either a Lancia Monte Carlo, Lancia Beta or Fiat X/19 or maybe a Porsche 924. It would depend on which came up for sale at a decent price first as I wouldn't mind any of them! The Lancia Monte Carlo would be my number one choice, but a decent one would be several times the cost of a decent 33 I think! What would you own? |
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ak863 Guest
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:13 am Post subject: |
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faithfull to italian...
maserati biturbo or lancia integrale (ok lancia stratos is only a dream)... |
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Laki Alfasud
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 74 Location: Ljubjana
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Wait for Alfa Romeo to start existing or build my own one _________________ -- ALFA ROMEO 33 Q4 --
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rallyboy77 Alfasud
Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Posts: 76 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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A monte is on my list of cars to own.. only because a 037 rallye is a bit out of my price range at the moment
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dino Alfa Arna
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thema turbo.....
or Integrale _________________ speed matters |
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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ok how about marcos mantula?
anyone had one? |
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LDA Alfa 33
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 276 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:29 am Post subject: |
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i'd have to go jap.
nissan pulsar gtir (got one anyway)
but if it had to be something i haven't got then i'd quite like an MR2 turbo.
if i had 25k to spend on a car (and i dont) first on my list would be a lotus esprit v8se but i would also like an exige.
well, i can dream.
L. _________________ A good workman allways blames his sh*t tools. |
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Hi
It would be a Maserati. But then we have one as well. A 222SE.
All the best
Keith |
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ak863 Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one Keith,
please what do you think about the maserati? You have it long time now?
as reliable as the alfa? how about acceleration ? |
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
We have had it since 1997. My better half was on crutches for years from a broken leg (she wrapped an Alfasud round a lamp post) and could not drive a manual so we wanted a reasonable size automatic with a reasonable amount of go.
The turbo engine works well with an auto box as you do not need to back off the throttle to change gear.
Performance wise it goes very well, but I still think there is something wrong if I have been riding a bike for a while! Very different to a 33. Far quicker, but also far torquier.
Fuel consumption is around 20mpg. Parts costs were hideous, but have got cheaper since Ferrari took over (£275 for a distributor cap ). Servicing is not that cheap. Plugs every 6000 miles, cam belt every 24000. Fuel filters every other service.
Ground clearance is nominal, around 6cm from the bottom of the sump to the ground.
Reliability wise it is not that bad but not that good. The fuse box causes problems. They get hot very quickly. The relays are difficult to buy (they look like standard ones, but the pins are a different way round). Some parts are easy to get from Fiat (fog lights are late Lancia Thema, £108 from Maserati or £38 from Fiat).
All the best
Keith |
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LDA Alfa 33
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 276 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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any pics keith?
are they rear wheel drive? soz dont know much about Maserati's
L. _________________ A good workman allways blames his sh*t tools. |
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Big one here:-
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/222se.JPG
And this one at Brooklands:-
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/Maser1.jpg
It is a 2.8L twin turbo V6 with rwd. Claimed ~250hp.
It is currently away having the bodywork sorted out (2 front wings, 1 rear wing, replacement doors and boot lid). It was bougth for everyday use but is now an occasional use toy. Trouble is the lack of space in the garage at the moment (14 bikes take up a fair amount of room).
All the best
Keith |
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LDA Alfa 33
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 276 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:45 am Post subject: |
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lovely! i used to walk past one every day on the way to uni. it was white but basicly the same as yours.
only 250hp from 2.8 bi turbo?
they are very nice looking cars. how well do they handle? do you think they would take a bit of hard driving?
looking for a new drift car you see
but i suspect that the repair bills would put it out of my price range.
L. _________________ A good workman allways blames his sh*t tools. |
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
250hp is not bad. If you want more power then go for a lhd 2L Ghibli which made 306hp, or the Cup version that made 330hp (but do not blow a turbo on a cup as they are roller bearing items and were about £4000 each).
The 222 is quite a short wheelbase car so it is likely that if you are not careful the first thing you will know about breaking traction with the rear end is that you are now using the mirrors to see where you are going. The 430 (4 door saloon, same engine) has a longer wheelbase and gives a lot more warning. The convertable has an even shorter wheelbase.
All the best
Keith |
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LDA Alfa 33
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 276 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Admin wrote: |
Hi
250hp is not bad. If you want more power then go for a lhd 2L Ghibli which made 306hp, or the Cup version that made 330hp (but do not blow a turbo on a cup as they are roller bearing items and were about £4000 each).
The 222 is quite a short wheelbase car so it is likely that if you are not careful the first thing you will know about breaking traction with the rear end is that you are now using the mirrors to see where you are going. The 430 (4 door saloon, same engine) has a longer wheelbase and gives a lot more warning. The convertable has an even shorter wheelbase.
All the best
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sorry keith, i wasnt having a go at 250bhp. just seemed a bit low for such a large v6 lump with a pair of turbos. seeing as one of my non alfa cars atm is 249bhp single turbo 2.0L inline 4 as stock. nissan silvia s15.
yeh i thought they looked a bit short. sorta go kart style handling shape. plus i have just been on autotrader and you cant get a good looking one for less then 8k. my budget for a drift car is only 5k.
cheers
L. _________________ A good workman allways blames his sh*t tools. |
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Dreamracers Alfa Sprint
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 236 Location: Sunny Zomerzet, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:35 am Post subject: |
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I would probably have a Lancia Delta, Fiat 131 Abarth, or X1/9
Nice Maserati! *drool* _________________ (00=\°/=00) (00=\°/=00)
Alfasud 1.7Ti & Alfasud 1.3Ti
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Sergio Alfa Sprint
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 150 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Admin wrote: |
Hi
Big one here:-
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/222se.JPG
And this one at Brooklands:-
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/Maser1.jpg
It is a 2.8L twin turbo V6 with rwd. Claimed ~250hp.
It is currently away having the bodywork sorted out (2 front wings, 1 rear wing, replacement doors and boot lid). It was bougth for everyday use but is now an occasional use toy. Trouble is the lack of space in the garage at the moment (14 bikes take up a fair amount of room).
All the best
Keith |
Lovely Car Keith
14 bikes!!! thats a lot of wheels
all the best,
Sérgio _________________ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Driving a 33 1.7 16v QV & Lancia Musa |
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
You should be able to find one for less than £8k. Trouble is the cheaper ones are worth more as spare parts. I would doubt ours will be worth that much even when all the work has been done to it. Make sure the clock works if you buy one, as they are about £700 new.
David Askew is a good source of parts and sometimes has cars for sale. None at the moment, but this 430 shows you what is available:-
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~davidaskew/maserati/carsforsale.htm
Bike wise there are 12 in the garage, 2 living on the drive, another one away at a restoration place (need to get used to Whitworth spanners to put that one together) and I have just been given another one . Mainly small 125s, but also a GPZ500, FZ750, FZR600, Bimota YB10 and a played with Suzuki 1200 Bandit (153hp at the back wheel ).
All the best
Keith |
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ak863 Guest
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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if i ever get the cash, maserati will surely be an option!
2 years i have been driving in UK, and i have only seen one.
Most people have no idea what kind of rocket these monsters have under the hood.. |
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Dreamracers Alfa Sprint
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 236 Location: Sunny Zomerzet, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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was offered one a few months ago - £6.5k I thiink was the asking...! _________________ (00=\°/=00) (00=\°/=00)
Alfasud 1.7Ti & Alfasud 1.3Ti
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BILL Alfa Sprint
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 154 Location: TRIPOLIS GREECE
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know what i would be driving if AR didnt exist but now i drive a new PUNTO HGT .The 33 is in relaxing mode now .She will be used as the second car in the family (or as the fun car ).
The new AR's are very expencive for my pocket.
Please dont ban me . |
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johnboy 16 Valve
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1061 Location: margate U.K
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Guys
Nice car keith and a bimota yb10 cool
Well my dream car is a mclaren F1 gtr but at £635000 just abit out of my touch,still love an integrale what a car i had a hf turbo that was fun.
but now ive got my work cut out restoring a 1972 spider.got to stop going on EBAY and ive still got to pick it up from manchester not good as i live in margate.
regards john _________________ WODA WE NEED? MORE POWER!!
Alfa gt jtdm blackline
1990 S2 16v veloce sleeping!
2002 ts gtv the wifes now
1997 seadoo gsx 800
1999 freestyle superjet |
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Serpent33 Alfa Sprint
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 210 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I have actually thought of this before. For the similar cost, I would like to own an E30 BMW, or a Nissan Sunny. Everything else seems to be less fun. E30 for a better build quality, Sunny for the handling of rear dead axle. _________________ Each time I speed I say, "Dear lord, make me fast and accurate..." |
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LDA Alfa 33
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 276 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Serpent33 wrote: |
I have actually thought of this before. For the similar cost, I would like to own an E30 BMW, or a Nissan Sunny. Everything else seems to be less fun. E30 for a better build quality, Sunny for the handling of rear dead axle. |
get the gtir. its much faster and its 4wd so the rear axle is useful!
L. _________________ A good workman allways blames his sh*t tools. |
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ChrisC Alfa Sprint
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Frome
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: If Alfa Romeo did not exist, what car would you own? |
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joninaustralia wrote: |
Mine would be either a Lancia Monte Carlo, Lancia Beta or Fiat X/19 or maybe a Porsche 924. It would depend on which came up for sale at a decent price first as I wouldn't mind any of them! The Lancia Monte Carlo would be my number one choice, but a decent one would be several times the cost of a decent 33 I think! What would you own? |
Heh. I have an x1/9, a beta, and my dad has a 944.... close enough? _________________ Alfa Sprint QV - Gone to a better home and in happier health for it
Silver Lancia Beta HPE Volumex - under restoration |
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