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JeremyC Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:33 am Post subject: Are all 33 wheels the same bolt pattern and offset |
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I've decided that next winter I shall be fitting winter tyres to the car (we live down a country lane that is still like an ice rink). Even in a normal winter I spend alot of time driving of muddy back roads so they should benefit with stopping on those too.
Consequently I want to pick up a spare set of wheels sometime, will anything 33 steel or alloy fit?
Cheers
Jeremy _________________ '93 Black 33 1.7 16v |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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What about 145/6 spare wheels, 4 from a scrappy with winter tyres fitted?
Very cheap as there very thin and should cut through the ice and snow? _________________ x2 33 16v
pictures http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5203 |
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JeremyC Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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So 145 & 146 are the same bolt pattern & offset too yes? _________________ '93 Black 33 1.7 16v |
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lee16v 16 Valve
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1429 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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145 and 146 will have the same bolt pattern (PCD 98.) but not sure about the offset. You'll find most Fiat four studs will have a PCD of 98 but I guess the offset would vary and you'd have to check fitment before buying. |
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JeremyC Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Is it safe to assume all 33 wheels have the same offset? _________________ '93 Black 33 1.7 16v |
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flat4alfa Alfa Sprint
Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Herts/Beds/Bucks border area, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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145 146 155 all 4x98mm
I'll post offsets later if it helps |
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Serpent33 Alfa Sprint
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 210 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I remember spacers required to clear rear trailing arms. If I remember correctly 145/6 ET49 or something to Et 40 of 33. Also cntr bore bigger by 0.5 mm. _________________ Each time I speed I say, "Dear lord, make me fast and accurate..." |
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flat4alfa Alfa Sprint
Joined: 28 Aug 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Herts/Beds/Bucks border area, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Just been out into my garden to read-off these:
Alfa 145 Cloverleaf Speedline : ET 49.5
Alfa 33 QV Speedline : ET 39
145/146 boxer-engined cars may well be different offsets to the Twinks |
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
There is a page about it up there ^.
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/offset.php
Basically the offsets on the 33 are the same. The 145/6, etc is different, and also have a very slightly smaller centre locating hole.
Heard a few people mention using a space saver. However not sure that the tyre bead is the same, and while they are narrow if you use the original tyres they also have a very low speed rating, very short life expectancy and very little tread.
Set of old narrow rims should do the job OK though, although you might need to change the wheel bolts as well.
All the best
Keith _________________ I owe, I owe, its off to work we go.
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Admin wrote: |
Basically the offsets on the 33 are the same. The 145/6, etc is different, and also have a very slightly smaller centre locating hole. |
Doh, so my 145/6 space saver is not going to fit over the middle and may hit the trailing arm?? _________________ x2 33 16v
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serpent 33 Guest
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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You should chk. The space savers are narrow and there's a possibility it might clear. |
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Brit01 Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 665
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:26 am Post subject: |
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quick question here as you're on the subject of wheels.
I need to swap the front and rear wheels due to wear. First time with my alfa.
I've never seen balance weighs on these 33 wheels. Do they attach them to the inside of the wheels or do they not need to be tested/balanced at a workshop?
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RFlower Alfa 33
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 432 Location: S of France
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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All 33 wheels need balancing; the tyre is responsible for most of the imbalance. Weights are fitted to the innner or outer side of the wheel as indicated on the machine when the wheel is balanced, although I have seen balance weights glued to middle of the the inside bore of the wheel.
You should make sure you use the correct bolts for the wheels you fit. They are longer for alloy than for steel wheels.
Non-standard wheels may have even longer bolts, and the wrong bolts could have been installed before you got the car, e.g. if a previous owner had fitted wheels with spacers, then used those longer bolts when replacing the original wheels.
To check, make sure the bolts go at least one thread through the flange or brake drum with the wheel fitted, but don't protrude enough to foul anything.
If long bolts for alloy wheels are fitted to steel wheels, the ends of the bolts on the rear wheels can foul the brake cylinders or shoes. _________________ Dick Flower, Nr. Carcassonne. '94 Trofeo 1.4 ie (F), '93 Imola 1.3/1.4 ie (now for breaking) (F), '91 1.7 ie (GB)(spare car), '86 Sprint 1.5 QV (F). '87 VW Syncro camper (F), '73 NSU Ro80 (F), '99 Fiat Seicento (F) |
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Brit01 Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 665
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thxs RFlower.
I will change the front for rear tyres myself, and drive down the street to have them balanced at my local garage. |
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