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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey

Well I managed to fix the door, all be it temporally. I tried a Phillips head screw with washer, but it sat too high and touched the door catch. I then used larger washers and used the original Allen key tampered bolts.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey

The washers were jamming on the catch.
I now can't open the door.

I have tried pushing the door from the inside whilst someone pulls on the door from the outside with the window down pulling on the lower part of the window, whilst pulling the handle from both inside and outside.

The door is part open, as the central locking wont close now, I can't take the door card off as the dash is in the way.

Any suggestions?

thanks
Alan
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john 33_16v · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:37 am Post subject:

Nightmare.

If you can get a spare door card you could cut off the original else maybe front seat/s out to give room to pull the door card around?

Good luck.

John
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Guest · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:41 am Post subject:

Can you push the door closed button(that does the interior light) in on frame between the hinges? That might allow you to unlock the doors. Not sure how it works tbh but worth a try I would have thought.

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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey

the dash is the thing that is in the way, i dont know if pulling the door card off will help any though as the door is kind of open bu wedged on the catch Sad

not sure how pushing the light switch would help lol, cant get to that and the hinges are bolted fro the inside of the door shuts Sad

I can lock the car by removing the fuse for the central locking and can close all other doors Smile

Thanks guys, keep em comming
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john 33_16v · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:23 pm Post subject:

Ian M · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject:

How about lying on your back across the seats and kicking it as hard as you can with both feet
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey

ive kinda done that too Sad

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lee16v · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject:

Have you got that picture of what you did? As I'm not sure of what you've done Al. My suggestion would be to remove outer window seal strip and get a piece of wire with a bend at the end down there to try and pull on the release lever.

lee16v · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:23 pm Post subject:

Another suggestion would be to weld the door up, smash the window out, paint the car orange with flag motif on top and then go running from the law.

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Guest · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject:

Ian M · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject:

Oggie · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:11 pm Post subject:

All be it a time consuming event, you could remove the front wing exposing the 6 door hinge bolts and try taking it of that way?, but easyiest would be to drill a decent size hole in the door card.
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john 33_16v · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject:

john 33_16v · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject:

Just had a thought and here's a serious suggestion.

Try jacking the car at the rear jacking point and if that doesn't work try the others one by one as the flex in the car might be enough to pop it open.

John
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The Wombat · Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject:

When I took delivery of the red P4 I am currently stripping, the doors were seized closed. The latch pivots had seized into their mounts.

I was able, carefully but persistently, to unclip the rear top edge of the door card, and lever the plastic strip that holds it along the window up over the metalwork.

I then got several long 3/8 extension bars as drifts, and tapped the inside part of the latch mechanism round to release the door.

it was all a bit fiddly, but worked with no damage to anything other than a couple of broken door trim clips I had to replace.

Hope that helps, as if the mods to the handle are causing the issue, tapping the latch mechanism round to release the door should still work as it can rotate independent of the handle mechanism.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey

Thanks for the serious suggestions Smile

I put 3 large washers around the 3 allen key bolts holding the door locking mechanism in place. the originall holes in the door for the bolts had corroded completly and the allen bolts pulled through into the door, so the whole locking mechanism was not fixed to anything.

So, the door locking mechanism now catches on the door piller catch, the door open mechanism works, as the door is not closed properly as the central locking doesnt close, due to the catch not being fully home.
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Ian M · Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject:

My suggestion was very serious Al
Its that fool from Barnstable keeps leading us astray
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lee16v · Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:26 pm Post subject:

john 33_16v · Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:51 pm Post subject:

All my posts on here are always serious:

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