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[BigAl]

Mine is due at the end on July, is it really now over £200 at a whopping £205?
I just went on the DVLA car checker site
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application?origin=vnav_bar.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.refresh&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry
and was confronted with that ghastly amount.

Don't get me started on tax by co emissions, its road tax not emission tax FFS!!
Cars wear out the road regardless of what emission bracket they are in.

Does all that money go where it is supposed to, on road maintenance, no, more likely in overpaid government officials that don't live in the real world and get driven everywhere by fat gas guzzling jags that us tax payers pay for, not forgetting about expenses!!!
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[bobbber]

Link doesn't work... what did you expect? Thank the lord we now have a bit more of a sane government, although I can't see their "green" agenda making this any better. Don't worry... it's only paper

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[bobbber]

Maybe I'm getting old (my nan, when I was a kid, used to complain that cod and chips had gone up to 80p).... however £205 seems wicked steep!

I'll call my friend Mr. Cameron tomorrow.

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[BigAl]

Hey I remember 1/2 penny sweets and mars bars were 10p and feasts were 20p
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[john 33_16v]

[john 33_16v]

[RFlower]

I think car tax should be abolished and about 5p per litre added to the cost of petrol. That way drivers would be paying for the amount they use the roads, also not paying more for each car they own - they can't use them all at the same time!

That would get rid of the people in Cardiff who spend their lives sending out reminders for tax and SORN, then sending out receipts or reminders, and being unhelpful on the 'phone. Maybe something useful can be found for them to do, but I'm not too sympathetic.

Put an MOT sticker (as in France and Spain) and a little insurance certificate (as in France) on the car windscreen to prove the car is legal.

Then get rid of expensive APNR equipment and the tax and insurance database - the police have to phone up any time a driver disagrees with the camera anyway, because it's impossible to keep the database updated for every vehicle in the country.

And don't even think about schemes for fitting GPS equipment to charge commercial vehicles for distance travelled. They will do so automatically when they buy fuel.

Oh, and limit the amount of fuel brought in in the huge tanks of foreign trucks. EU has a limit now of 600 litres, which is ridiculous. Ignore the EU rules, France does.

Maybe the above would even help a little bit with the Budget deficit

Edit: I remember when Mars bars were 4 old pence - they were bigger, too
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[BigAl]

We alrerady pay the most tax on fuel in the whole world.
Yer look at the size of waggon wheels, smaller and same/more price, pay more for less.
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[RFlower]

[BigAl]

Sounds good
No fines for forgetting to re-tax and insured all the time
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[bobbber]

No, No, No, No, No, No...

We already pay enough tax in the UK thanks. How about the government start giving us value for money by providing only essential services at good prices?

And why does "independent inquiry" seem to have unlimited time-scale and unlimited funds? Like the "Bloody Sunday" inquiry - 12 years in the making and £195m. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/10310598.stm

Now, I'm the first to appreciate the report is about a touchy subject... but REALLY COME ON... WHERE IS THE SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE?!?! If I have a project in work and I get half the time it needs and half the money it needs, and if I don't make it work then I get into trouble.

I'd have given them 6 months and £1m to sort out a conclusion.... honestly - I ask you.

No wonder our once great country is in a total mess... it's appalling.

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[RFlower]

[bobbber]

Richard, I did read your post carefully and with great interest. My response was more a general tax rant than a reference to your post. I agree the context may have made it sound more like a rejection of what you said though...

That's the problem with the internet... no sense of intonation!
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[bobbber]

I just think about adding up the amount of tax I pay to drive... car tax, tax on insurance, tax on fuel... then think, "am I getting value for money???"

Well the answer is no!

The conclusion is "they're wasting my money"... and then car tax and fuel duty go up! Grrr...
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[Guest]

Guys,

I wish I was back in the UK to take advantage of the CHEAP road tax you have. Don't complain, you have got it soooo good.

I live in a country (Uruguay) with 3rd world salaries and first world prices.

My old 1988 33 costs me about 250 pounds in road tax and we have almost dirt roads with pot holes that haven't been touched for 50 years.

Some examples of road tax prices here:

Corsa 2008: 1000 USD a year

BMW 2006 X5: 10,000 USD a year (YES TEN THOUSAND USD!!!).

Basically the more luxury the car is the more you pay EXPONENTIALLY to put more money into the pockets of the government employees and not the roads.

Also this encourages pollution as there are no MOTs done, the older and more polluting the car is the less in tax you pay. It's all backwards here.

[Brit01]

Sorry guys I didn't log in. That was me posting about road tax here in Uruguay.





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[lee16v]

[Brit01]

Well that's an interesting way of looking at it. Yes you have a point that manufacturing new cars is a contaminating process.

But when I have to clean the soot of my balcony every weekend then you wonder why they don't enforce some minimum emission standards here.

[lee16v]

[BigAl]

Road tax
Emission tax
Fuel tax
Mileage tax
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[paulhide]

and don't forget 'parking tax'.
(and speeding tax)
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