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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: Whats your MPG / total miles per tank? |
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37.24 MPG 358.6 miles per tank
1993 k reg 16v wit no cat, no lambda set up for 95 ron
Can anyone beat that?
Whats needed.
1. an alfa 33, state make and model. (cat / no cat, lambda / no lambda)
2. a spare can, with petrol
3. a full tank of petrol, to the brim.
4. a workng trip counter.
Rules
Fill petrol tank up to the brim, along with your spare can. Reset the trip counter and drive as ecomimically as you can (thats the hard part) until you run out of petrol and cant go any further. Take out spare can, and pour into petrol tank. Note down your mileage and work out the average MPG. Use the following link if you want.
http://www.taxbuddies.com/mpg.php
If your worried about your fuel filter, than please dont participate, i dont want to give you more work to do however ive been doing this for ages and not had a problem
My wheels are to big and currently my speedo is 5mph faster than im actually going. I do an average of 60mph and do about 30 miles per trip.
I used to get about 300 - 320 miles per tank, the car was incorreclty set up for 97 ron fuel with no lambda, then i set it up correctly, 95 ron, no lambda no cat and got a little more
I did manage to get 390 miles when driving to alfa day, i could have got more if it werent for a long blast with another car for the last 30 miles
Good luck!! _________________ x2 33 16v
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
two years ago my credit card froze and i had to go home on very little cash.
that night i ran 1134 kms until i decided to fill er up (49 liters) on my alfa 33 1.3ie (cat has been removed), 1992 ; the car had by then between 350 000 and 400 000 kms on the clock (has now 520 000).
i achieved the performance on the motorway, with overinflated (2.6 bar) stock tires, 5th gear all the way, driving in the slow lane, behind trucks (80kms/h average).
on the other side, when the tank was so rusty it was leaking like hell, i would barely run 200kms on a full tank...
regards,
zp |
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Ben_nz Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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You don't have to run your car out of petrol to measure its economy. The mpg figure is a sufficient comparison, not miles per tank.
So you fill your tank up, zero the trip counter, drive until the tank's near empty, pull in to a petrol station and note the trip counter reading and how much petrol it takes to fill your tank back up. You can calculate how many miles per gallon your 33 does from that.
The best I've got out of my 1.7QV (carburetted 8v, no cats or lambda probes or that eco-friendly rubbish) is about 7.5l/100km, or 38mpg. 604km (375 miles) is the most I've seen on my trip counter before I've chickened out and filled up.
Normally I average 9l/100km (31.4mpg).
I'm using Imperial/European gallons here not US ones. |
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mt Alfa Sprint
Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Portsmouth
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: |
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ZeNiTh-PbArM wrote: |
that night i ran 1134 kms until i decided to fill er up (49 liters) |
That works out to 65mpg over here, which is a phenominal amount and more than just about any consumer car available at the moment claims to do! Nice
I have a standard non-cat P4 (1.7 16v), my last tank was 95 RON petrol on 95 RON setting and 280 miles of driving 'normally' (i.e. with purpose ) with a mix of round town, rush hour traffic and short motorway sprints i got 35mpg.
The tank before that was 98 RON (optimax) on 97 RON setting and i averaged just over 38mpg over 300 miles but almost half of that was a sensible (60-80mph, rarely 90/100) motorway journey. Mind you, i did do some manic dashes too which i guess would even it up.
I fill up after about 300 miles, would hate to run empty and drag all the crap that collects at the bottom of the tank through the fuel system. However tempting it may be...
98 RON on 97 setting feels a LOT better to drive though btw, more power everywhere. But more expensive. |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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BUMP
28.77 MPG
1993 k reg 16v wit cat, with lambda set up for 91 ron
(should be 95) Doh, when i fitted my cat, i earthed the corect connectors for lambda probe, but forgot to unearth the other connecter so the car thinks its been running 91 ron.
I will remove the connector and try again.
Come on guys and girls anymore, or is no one driving their car in this lovely weather. _________________ x2 33 16v
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mt Alfa Sprint
Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Portsmouth
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Just got a 36mpg tank, 98 RON on 97 setting. Changed back to 95 now so will see what that does. |
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John W -not logged in Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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My 33 16v '93 with cat - standard except K+N panel.
It's running well, with a very low CO and HC with a recent bosch lambda, and genuine good cond exhaust and cat, BUT driven as it should be- MPG about 15-20!!!!
Cheers,
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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John W, your kinda missing the point here, anyone can get a bad MPG, thats easy whats HARD is driving economically especially in this weather. To make it easier, fill up do 1 long run, driving economically, fill up again, work out MPG, then drive normally again (like a nutter ) _________________ x2 33 16v
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neo Alfasud
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 68 Location: Rijeka, Croatia
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I did 43 MPG with a 1.7 16V engine, 2 pearsons and a fully loaded trunk. No CAT, but standalone fuel management with lambda correction. It was all mostly open road, and maybe 15% city driving.
I've made 500 km, and used 37 liters of fuel. When I've translated km into miles, I've used miles=km/1.4. _________________ http://www.quartermile.ws/forum/viewthread.php?tid=889&page=1 |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm about to do a long run, i will do a test with car setup for 95 ron with cat on the way there. On the way back ill set the car up for no cat 97 ron and disconnect the lambda probe. _________________ x2 33 16v
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eagle3 Alfa 33
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 402 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Average 8l/100km which is about 35mpg.
It will do more over a long trip. 40mpg give or take.
Car Alfa 33i.e 90bhp. 1994 93,000km. _________________ Alfa33 QO 1984
Alfa33 1.3i.e. 1994 |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Right, you ready for this?
82 mile trip there not exceeding 60 mph 3k rpm, using shel v-power.
With the ecu setup for 95 ron with cat and lambda probe connected i got 45.98 mpg.
82 mile trip back not exceeding 60 mph 3k rpm, using shel v-power.
With the ecu setup for 97 ron with no cat and lambda probe disconnected i got 48.83 mpg
Checked tyre pressure was the same before leaving on both trips
This wasnt a long run i know or was it the same journey but the return trip, although it was the same distance, its a difference of 2.85 mpg and im sure would be greater over a longer distance.
Howver as i was visiting my god parents, im sure i weighed mor on the return trip, as i was full with good food and had 3 large protions of cake with me _________________ x2 33 16v
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Ben_nz Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Your 2mpg difference might be within the margin of error, but one thing that's not in doubt is that I couldn't have achieved that economy with my carbed 33(s)! _________________ "Now, all that is left to do ... is wait that something else brokens, to fix up again!" |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think using v-power and setting it up for 97 ron "advancing the timing" has made a huge difference compared to.
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37.24 MPG 358.6 miles per tank
1993 k reg 16v wit no cat, no lambda set up for 95 ron |
using 95 ron petrol.
Can you get 97 ron over there and advance the timing on your carbie?? _________________ x2 33 16v
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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1.5_iE Alfasud
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 31 Location: West Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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my best in my old 33 ie coming back from wales was 46.2mpg, that was a proper brim to brim test and cruising at over the national speed limit pretty much all the way back to birmingham. wonderful economy is there to be had from the 1500cc injection! _________________ 1993 1.5 IE 63k Miles, Renovation Project
2007 Grande Punto 1.4 16v Sporting |
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Oggie Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 811 Location: Whitehill
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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a whopping 16 miles per gallon, need I say anymore?. _________________ PHAT 33 |
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Alex_Alfa33 Alfasud
Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Essex, Nr Chelmsford
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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1.7 8v carbs.
21mpg 230miles
I think it was running a little rich! _________________
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fluffyduff Alfasud
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 57
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Averaging 28-30 MPG
'92 1350cc twin carb. Best I ever had out of it was 35 on a long run but I was quite bored by the end of it |
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Dr A. 33 1.5IE Alfa Sprint
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Nicosia - Cyprus
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Around 33 mpg doing 340 miles on a full tank, using 98RON in a 94' 1.5IE 33 with a Catalyst.
A quick question: do I have to set the ECU in my car to run on 98RON or is it already set?
Chears everyone _________________ 1994 Alfa 33 1.5 IE Cat. 220.000Kms and still going strong!!! (Από την Αθήνα και τώρα στην Λευκωσία) |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2992 Location: U.K Surrey
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Oggie wrote: |
a whopping 16 miles per gallon, need I say anymore?. |
Iain... you're clearly winning at the moment.
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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Rich B Alfa 33
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I've only put a tenners worth of fuel in my car in the last 2 years!!! Do I win? |
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Oggie Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 811 Location: Whitehill
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Bobber, I think i can better that if I keep my foot planted, but would have to ship the car to some salt lake flats lol. Anyway petrol is going out of fashion so must make the most of it. _________________ PHAT 33 |
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johnboy 16 Valve
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1061 Location: margate U.K
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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hi guys
i think lee 16 and i could beat 16 mpg round spa! I would say im getting about 25-28.but thats fine with me. Still need to sell her if you guys know anyone?
Regards john. _________________ WODA WE NEED? MORE POWER!!
Alfa gt jtdm blackline
1990 S2 16v veloce sleeping!
2002 ts gtv the wifes now
1997 seadoo gsx 800
1999 freestyle superjet
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