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[tboy823]

Ok, so here's the first of probably many questions.

I reckon i'm in for a new clutch assembly , I have a 1.7 8v engine from a 33 and the original gearbox from the 1.5 sud engine.

Please could someone post a link to a suitable replacement clutch on eBay or somewhere similar - as I know diddly squat about stuff like this .

many thanks

[eagle3]

I think they're all the same for 8v engines.

I would go for a sachs kit or similar quality. The cheapest on ebay is £130. You might find it cheaper elsewhere.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-33-Sachs-Clutch-Kit-Genuine-OE-Quality-Transmission-Replacement-/370764523226?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AAlfa+Romeo%7CModel%3A33&hash=item565349a6da
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[tboy823]

Brilliant - thanks Eagle3

Just to continue my education in clutches, what determines what will suit each different setup, is it engine size (cc), or is its related to the physical size of the clutch ie 200mm, 24 teeth

thanks again

[eagle3]

That ebay site doesn't think that kit works for a 1.7, but I'm sure they're the same. Maybe they were thinking of the 1.7 16V. I dunno.

I'm pretty sure they're compatible with the engine and box. Might be worth checking Justsuds. They might even be cheaper.

Incidently that sud gold cloverleaf box is very long-legged. There are much shorter boxes if you don't like it. Or you could just change the final drive cog.

If you're taking the box off it's a good time to fix any problems with the inboard brakes. They're a bit of a nightmare to work on with the box in situ I'm told.
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[johnboy]

Hi chaps
I think there all the same , I've got an ap racing clutch in my 16v from I think a 1.5 Sud engine ! Never had any trouble with it
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[tboy823]

so any 200mm, 24 teeth will be ok?

[tboy823]

[Admin]

Hi

Long legged = high gearbox and / or diff ratios. So you are doing less rpm for a given road speed and gear (or put another way, you have less torque at the wheels for a given road speed and gear).

Changing the clutch is something you can do yourself, but is a pain of a job and will take some time. You need to drop the engine out really (is possible to do by supporting the engine and taking the gearbox off, but probably harder with home equipment).

All the best

Keith
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[Blueskev]

Ive spend a lot of time looking at clutches on ebay! As far as I can tell, there are two types, 180mm for small engined suds and 200mm that fit everything else including the 16v. A lot of sellers have different listings for different models, but when you read the detail, they are all 200mm with 24 splines.

Good luck! Its not a job Im looking forward to doing.
Regards,
Kev

[tboy823]

Hey Kev , thanks for that, how long are you thinking the whole job might take? and which make of clutch are you going for?

[Ian M]

I have done clutches in the past (not done one for a few years now) not easy on your own but can be done.
Time wise your looking realistically at five to six hours (or more) if it's your 1st time and you're on your own.
My best was about 4 1/2 hours, on the floor with axle stands and a couple of trolley jacks.
As Keith said the best way is to drop the engine out but I always done it by just taking the box off and supporting the engine.
There is a step by step on here somewhere I think, might be worth doing a search.
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[fluffyduff]

The first time I did my clutch I dropped the box and left the engine in place. It was a nightmare, I felt like setting the thing on fire by the time I was done. I just couldn't lift the gearbox back into place.

I'd definitely be in the "drop the engine and box together" camp. It's much easier and a lot less hassle in the long run.

[Blueskev]

[Oggie]

If your not worried about a budget I'd go for a Helix clutch , they are by far the best clutch I have used and I have eaten a few lol.
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[john 33_16v]

+1 for engine and box out together.

If you can make a trolley for the engine you can lower the car/engine onto the trolley and then lift the car over the engine. I've done this single handed.

Decent jacks and a few pairs of stands would help- not the cr*p jack in my picture

Removing the oil filler tube helps with clearance



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[tboy823]

Thanks all

I may have the use of a proper lift in my mates garage, and possibly some interested mechanics that may lend a hand, but will need to be on and off within a day.

should be do-able I reckon, just gotta motivate myself now

[eagle3]

I used this method to change the clutch http://alfaimola.free.fr/technique/transmission/embrayage/index.html Sorry it's in franch.

Worked ok for me but you need an inspection pit or lift.
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[tboy823]

Thanks for that eagle.

I don't do French, but as they say 'a picture speaks a thousand words'

cheers