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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Are your carbs blocked? Have tried Squirting some fuel down the inlets to see if it fires then dies ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
Carbs not blocked, see above.
I've even tried easy start and it won't fire.
Heidi I'm seriously considering it _________________ Presntly own
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paulhide P4
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Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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eagle3 Alfa 33
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 402 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:39 am Post subject: |
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The spark timing wouldn't be out by 360 degrees would it? That is the spark is at the end of the exhaust stroke instead of the compression stroke.
Are you getting any firing at all(like flames coming out the exhaust, pops and bangs)??
When you say the spark is "good" what colour is it? Might be worth trying another coil and electronic ignition module. _________________ Alfa33 QO 1984
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I've been out again this morning in the sunshine
Spun it over while pumping the throttle, then removed plugs which are drenched in fuel as you would expect.
Then I tested for a spark again, even in the bright morning sun I can see a good bright spark (no not Big Al), I also checked that it is timed correctly ie at approx tdc dizzy points to no1.
Tried changing it by 180deg where it was chuffing and banging out of the exhaust, so it must of been right.
I just don't understand why it won't fire or even make some attempt to fire. _________________ Presntly own
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Had a plug out again and had a good long look at the spark.
I would say it is variable and jumps about not firing at the same place on the electrodes.
Does this point towards the coil/electronic ignition module?
Is the module the thing mounted under the coil?
Is it still possible to get them? _________________ Presntly own
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eagle3 Alfa 33
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks eagle just had a look on eBay and it's all available new and reasonably priced.
May even be able to get from a local factors _________________ Presntly own
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paulhide P4
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Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
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Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Timing belts still in place? Engine timing correct between crankshaft and both camshafts?
How old are spark plugs? Sometimes if they are the resistive type they can get badly damaged during cranking attempts with the engine flooded and although they exhibit good spark, they won't fire the engine. I once spent some time on a non-starting GTV6 that way. Replacing all six plugs got it to fire right away!
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paulhide P4
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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So new coil and module arrived Thursday and between storms today (Saturday) I managed to fit the coil as I felt this was the most likely culprit.
Battery a bit week, due to lack of charging and a lot of fruitless attempts at starting, so after connecting a spare it fired straight up.
Left it running while I refitted the airbox etc.
Then got in put in gear and off we go, bit rough at first but after a couple of miles sweet as ever.
And once the brakes cleaned up I was able to stop
Anyway I've put the swan vestas away for the time being. _________________ Presntly own
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lee16v 16 Valve
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Sorted.
I'll send you a SAE for the matches if you don't need them anymore ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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eagle3 Alfa 33
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 402 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well done.
So it's not sure whether it was coil or module.
OOPs sorry misread it. It was the coil. _________________ Alfa33 QO 1984
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Brit01 Gold Cloverleaf
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent! Unusual for those coils to go. _________________ S2 33 1988 1.7 QV
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