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ak8635
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:24 am    Post subject: 3rd gear from standstill uphill and the car is still cool... Reply with quote

Goodmorning,

Anybody can help me with this,

I was going on a41 (south) and uphill before hendon tube station , when i switched from 3rd to 4th, i heard a noise and could not "lock in" to 4th gear. the gearbox was loose (clutch is ok).
therefore the car is now stuck with 3 rd gear inside..

I am suspecting that a bolt or a cable has snapped from the gearbox selector..
Any ideas about possible price of spare parts?

many thanks,
Ak
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its either one of two things (both of which have happened to me)

1) "Gear level feels like a spoon in a tea cup":
Gear linkage have come away and it quite easy to solve - get under the car and look around near below the gear stick, if it has come away then you can spot it easily. It is a vertical tube (normall has rubber tube in it too) on the end of a rod that goes to the gearbox, and the other is a pole with a vertical pole on the end that that slots into the vertical tube. On the end of the vertical pole is a hole for a split pin. This is a common problem I believe, and is easier to spot than it is to describe!!!

2) "Only have one gear, even though it feels as though you are changing when moving the level"
Something internal in the gearbox - we had a very nasty noise and the 'box only had third, regardless of which gear it felt like it was moved into. There was a nastybearing noise for ages before this happened... Simply got a replacement gearbox (used)

Hope yours is problem 1) !
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamracers wrote:
Its either one of two things (both of which have happened to me)

1) "Gear level feels like a spoon in a tea cup":
Gear linkage have come away and it quite easy to solve - get under the car and look around near below the gear stick, if it has come away then you can spot it easily. It is a vertical tube (normall has rubber tube in it too) on the end of a rod that goes to the gearbox, and the other is a pole with a vertical pole on the end that that slots into the vertical tube. On the end of the vertical pole is a hole for a split pin. This is a common problem I believe, and is easier to spot than it is to describe!!!


If it is a series 3 then it doesn't have a hole for a split pin. It has a groove for a circlip. The circlips pop off with age and people drill a hole and replace them with a split pin. The lever is actually quite hard steel and it is not easy to drill it.

All the best

Keith
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ak8635
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fixed it!!
cheers guys...

going for another track day at a1!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ak8635 wrote:
fixed it!!
cheers guys...

going for another track day at a1!


What was it then? Mine has just gone a second time Rolling Eyes Sad Confused It has gone like the 2nd one, but not stuck in gear yet, just noisy bearings in 4th and 5th below 40mph and I am not putting it in third (realy bad in that one), but managed to "limp home" 110 miles like that..!! Bloody noisy now and I doubt will go more than a mile or so. Luckily at our garage now.

By the way AK - coming along to my track day in October?
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ak8635
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi !

exact description even though it does not make sense..
(circlip missing on selector rod. fit new with washer (??))

i need to get new tyres, suspension and brakes (and more horsepower!) before i drive it faster.
sorry but it would not be wise to race it now..


what are you planning to do with the gear box? how much is a used one?

ta,
Ak
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After getting a variety of quotes (from £450-£900 for recon) I found a used one with 30 day guarentee so at least if it turns up with any issues I have comeback. Set me back £125 delivered, so not bad....

Glad your problem was the minor one!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to do an mot in one month, and i think all my luck will disappear then...

Enjoy the new gearbox!!
btw has anyone managed to do 60mph with 2nd gear???
whenever i ve loaded it up (the sound of the beast is amazing) i have seen 50mph, but i am not sure weither i can take it further up the rpm?

anyway moving from 1st to 2nd is absolutely amazing .....
tyres are screaming on the background..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ak8635 wrote:
i have to do an mot in one month, and i think all my luck will disappear then...

Enjoy the new gearbox!!
btw has anyone managed to do 60mph with 2nd gear???
whenever i ve loaded it up (the sound of the beast is amazing) i have seen 50mph, but i am not sure weither i can take it further up the rpm?

anyway moving from 1st to 2nd is absolutely amazing .....
tyres are screaming on the background..


My Original spec 33 16v goes past 100 km/h in 2nd... It goes to about 105 km/h before the rev limiter Wink

I know what you mean about the sound Very Happy leaves me speechless everytime Very Happy

All the Best

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Alistair
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:46 am    Post subject: Circlip for gearbox selector. Reply with quote

I have had the same problem with my 16v. Does anybody know the size of circlip as my local spares place does not stock them. Cheers Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried going to a Alfa Dealer? It's a very cheap part... Very Happy

All the Best

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:46 pm    Post subject: Sergio, I have tried but they are out of stock Reply with quote

I am trying to get the size so that I can get one from an engineers supplies today. The rod dia would be useful.
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ak8635
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry alistair but i dont know..
however the part costs £2..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject: Cheers! Reply with quote

I think I will pin it instead. Thanks for the help.
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